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connectingdots1

(02-09-2012 06:26 PM)silverbeatle Wrote: [ -> ]more information from the enemy:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/cme-cuts-g...er-margins

umm...that should read: "more information on the enemy"



....anyhow, yes I think he's nailed right here:

Quote:the CME just lowered Initial and Maintenance margins of gold (by 12%) and silver (13%), to $7500 maintenance for GC and $16000 maintenance for SI.


Did the paper bull trap season just open?

And how long before these are re-hiked by 15%, 20% or more?


I think those of us in the know are fully aware of what's taking place here...A F$^%@& Trap to rip people off one more time.

Now just wait a few days and watch if dumbass Stellaconcepts doesn't make another lame brain video defending the CME's actions and proceed to tell everyone that is how Free market work! lol


this bloody trap is getting so old and obvious that only newcomers get sucked in,,,,but not those of us who buy physical.


So therefore,,, margins are lowered for Gold and Silver = potential price rise

when margins are suddenly raised, especially 5 TIMES in 8 Days = Price drop!


did you get this JPMagentwannabe...it seems to be a little issue you don't understand when it comes to silver's manipulation...but don't feel bad about it 'cause neither does Stellaconcepts!

connectingdots1

did you folks read the comments!...WoW

these folks are awake and understand the game being played.



Quote:Yowza! Buy dem clients back whose wents elsewere.
Sheeeeit...

knukles Thu, 02/09/2012 - 17:15 | 2143749




CRIMEX is dying bigtime. PAGE will take a ton of biz away, as the crooked CRIMEX and CME are nothing but a Blythe Masters letterhead consortium. Since MFG stole customer funds, the pig is dead. Now, they are extending an invitation to anyone interested to come back into the ring and fight Medusa and Satan.

Here's some advice to any COMEX traders: You'll lose! You'll be stolen from. And you'll have margins hiked again.

nope-1004 Thu, 02/09/2012 - 17:20 | 2143760





Hey look, theyre cutting margins everyone... MANIPULATION, MANIPULATION!!1111

ZeroPower Thu, 02/09/2012 - 17:24 | 2143776
I hope it breaks the 50$ level , and people start preaching gold doubled shortly after it broke its 1980 high ! . Then it does and we rejoice over the buying power shock !
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CD.0001

So CME lowers margin requirements on the below crude oil, coal, some metals contracts while raising margin requirements on heavy Canadian crude and natural gas. Did it ever occur to you that they are trying to attract or in some cases detract buyers???????????? I doubt it. CME cut all these margin requirements so they can trap people in the silver market. It's a big conspiracy to trap silver and gold buyers.

It must be painful living with that head sitting on your shoulders.

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http://www.cmegroup.com/tools-informatio...12-059.pdf


FROM:
SUBJECT: DATE:
Clearing Member Firms Chief Financial Officers Back Office Managers Margin Managers
CME Clearing Performance Bond Requirements
Thursday, February 09, 2012
To receive advanced notification of Performance Bond (margin) changes, through our free automated mailing list, go to http://www.cmegroup.com/newsletter/web2l...f-old.html and subscribe to the Performance Bond Rates Advisory Notice listserver.
As per the normal review of market volatility to ensure adequate collateral coverage, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange Inc., Clearing House Risk Management staff approved the performance bond requirements for the following products listed below.
The rates will be effective after the close of business on Monday, February 13, 2012. Current rates as of: Thursday, February 09, 2012.

connectingdots1

Quote:In an extended announcement, which saw outright margins for virtually every commodity get cut,

you should read the story instead of beaking off and besides the that doesn't explain the hikes in Margins....5 times in 8 days idiot!

you're not too bright are ya?
(02-09-2012 09:19 PM)connectingdots1 Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:In an extended announcement, which saw outright margins for virtually every commodity get cut,

you should read the story instead of beaking off and besides the that doesn't explain the hikes in Margins....5 times in 8 days idiot!

you're not too bright are ya?


CD.0001

Like I said....

"It must be painful living with that head sitting on your shoulders."

Yea.....I should read the story and comments and go with the crowd. LMAO

Go take a nap little sheep sheep. The Big Bad Silver Wolf is gonna Get Ya!!! lol

connectingdots1

Quote:big bad wolf...bla bla bla

is that the most intelligent come back you have after I mention the Margins being raised 5 TIMES in 8 Days???

...man it must be nice living in your Bubble world of reality.


you poor idiot you must be one of the few here who doesn't get and then to refer the people who left the comments as the crowd shows just how much of a real Troll you are!


As most people, don't even have a clue what raising margins or what buying silver on contract really means,,,and after reading your comments i see you don't either, so to refer to them as the crowd is unjust....I refer to them as not the average folks who just happen to be so inform on corruption they can spot it as it's being set up!


Some thing you're sorry ass can't do....i think you should go back and read more comments, it might bring up to speed on what's really happening in the silver markets...or i guess you could go and see Stellaconcepts and get it from him! lol
CD.000001

Like I said....

"It must be painful living with that "thing" you call a head sitting on your shoulders."

Silver Market: Why CME Must Raise Margin Requirements By 30%
Dian L. Chu|[b]May 01, 2011[/b]|2,389|1

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011...ommodities
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04-12-2011, 10:37 PMPost: #12
Guest ID 8PmuT39lzk = JPMsecretagent

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RE: We Have Until July at Latest Even a Caveman Can See It COLLAPSENET


FWIW....Silver has had a Great Run! Be careful! It's Due for a Correction! Buy target on a move down, $37.50, $36.00, $34.16 and $32.33.

Silver Options Bears Boost Bets on Decline for Second Day
By Jeff Kearns - Apr 12, 2011 4:42 PM ET

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-12...d-day.html
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connectingdots1

the poor idiot doesn't even read what he's posting otherwise he would have seen how even the author notices how things aren't right with the CME!

..and then supplies us with a second link that doesn't even work any more!

,,,probably because it was non-sense spewed out by MSM back when the CME raised the Margins 5 TIMES in 8 DAYS!.... it's not normal and idiot JPM can't back his ***** up with nothing but false info that fails to back up his BS lies!


poor idiot...you failed again and once again showed us all how UN-informed you are.


Quote:Raise Margin Requirements by 30%...

would be to raise margin requirements by at least 30%, as the starting point.

The CME could have raised margin requirements once Silver broke $40 an ounce, and without a doubt they should have raised margin requirements on the 14th of April, before this latest 12% weekly move.

The longer the CME fails to address the problems in the Silver market to rein in excessive speculation, the more risk there is of an extreme market crash


ok so once again folks notice how the author points out what THEY should have been done before and from the starting point....and also points out what happens when they don't raise the margins before the rise in silver.

"... the more risk there is of an extreme market crash"


The cat is out of the bag and only idiots play along like they don't know what's going on or those who have yet to get educated on the Manipulation in the silver market.

buy physical folks and don't waste your time with paper contracts made to rip you off.



ETF's equals paper silver...stay away from that!


Sweet been waiting for a pull back, going to buy more silver, never got the bottom when it was 26, pulled the trigger to early, but I dont see it going there if it does im sure everyone is going to go all in, sell house, sell ***** you dont need and buy silver for a 3500% return sound sweet to me...

connectingdots1

Here's a few other good comments from that news site:


Quote:"Basically people are running Usain Bolt style away from COMEX since November because of MF Global. COMEX needs these customers to come back, thus why they lowered margain requirements."

Hopium Dealer




Zackly!

It makes "no sense" if activity were high among futures. But it's slow, and any business that is slow has to incentify customers.

Is that manipulation? Not really.... Is it desperation? Hell ya!


nope-1004




"The manipulation will come (in my opinion) around $1820 for gold and $42 for silver.

COMEX is a business, thus why they lowered the requirements, but when PM's start raising drastically, masta' will come in and give COMEX the order to rise requirements."

Hopium Dealer




and a good one for JPwannabe:





Trav. You are either naive or blind to not consider the 2008 drop in price and the subsequent price moves to the down side, all recorded over a matter of days (From $21 down to $9, 2008) as not manipulative. There were no reasons for the metal, in monetary or fundamental (industrial use collapses or bonanza discoveries) terms, to plunge so dramitically. That's not price discovery, that's manipulation and if you can't or won't see that, you are making ignorant remarks.

The COMEX has a ring of short sellers, AKA boaard members and banker buddies, who will change the rules as they see fit, write naked short delivery promises to take out "Stops" to either gain from their illegal activity or so that they don't realize a loss. Just ask the Hunts.

No manipulation. KMA


Al Gorerhythm

Just one problem with this example

They were trying to corner the silver market to make more cash and increase their wealth

But most who buy today will be trying to get rid of their cash for the silver to preserve their wealth.

There is no ceiling on that as there is no reason to go back to failing currency reguardless of price. The only reason would be to payoff loans but at some point of fiat collapse even the banks wouldn't want them!

Hi ho silver away!
Coin Stack

connectingdots1

(02-09-2012 11:08 PM)freshdopamine Wrote: [ -> ]Sweet been waiting for a pull back, going to buy more silver, never got the bottom when it was 26, pulled the trigger to early, but I don't see it going there if it does im sure everyone is going to go all in, sell house, sell ***** you don't need and buy silver for a 3500% return sound sweet to me...

YOU MISSED IT?
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Well guess what...so did many others as it happened at Christmas time, here's the chart and as you can see, unless you were sitting at the computer that day there's very little chance you got in at that price, it's the reason I call BS on everyone claims they all got in at the lowest...YET ...NOT a SINGLE ONE of them have EVER posted anything with a silver price prediction or anything else of the sorts...sorry but what we have on this forum is a bunch of lying Trolls..

And here's my advice that I still remember 'till this day after listening to a guy who was investing in gold back when it was under $300/oz.
He went on to explain how he was sitting around for months and months saving cash to a several ounces of silver and was watching the market VERY attentively, one day the price dropped below $280/oz so here hurried up and spent his money of physical bullion...only to see the price drop a few days later to under $255/oz

his point was, and this is going back when Gold had just passed the $1000/ox mark, he said,...
" do you really think I sit back and worry about that drop in price now that gold is $1000/oz? "

the answer is NO of course but the point is,,,if you're buying silver you shouldn't be too preoccupied on the "perfect entry point" into the physical realm.

stacking is the point of the game but yes of course buying the dips is the trick so watch out for end of month contracts options expiry date which happens the last Tuesday and Wednesday of each month,, it's the one time you sometime see the cheapest price of the month...but not always.

connectingdots1

oh look...joe made a video for JPwannabe

I'm done toying with your utter ignorance, again..... It's obvious that you have a very limited capacity to think outside the box you've created. You are stuck and operate on only 3 cylinders of what could be an 8 cylinder brain. Too bad...... Maybe at some point you'll look at a chart with dates, indicators, overlays and attributes for beginners. Nice that you managed to clip off my first down side targets and focus on a Bloomberg link that I included for continuity of my original post.

BTW...in case you didn't notice? The world did not COLLAPSE in July. LOL

01/20/12
http://www.realistnews.net/Thread-silver-setting-up

You should be happy with today's news. Instead.......You're a Loser Victim Boy who thinks he has it all figured out.

TaTa..... Jr

Again......

"It must be painful living with that "thing" you call a head sitting on your shoulders."
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Silver Market: Why CME Must Raise Margin Requirements By 30%
Dian L. Chu|[b]May 01, 2011[/b]|2,389|1

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011...ommodities
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04-12-2011, 10:37 PMPost: #12
Guest ID 8PmuT39lzk = JPMsecretagent
Unregistered

RE: We Have Until July at Latest Even a Caveman Can See It COLLAPSENET


FWIW....Silver has had a Great Run! Be careful! It's Due for a Correction! Buy target on a move down, $37.50, $36.00, $34.16 and $32.33.


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Looks like a good departure number!
(02-10-2012 01:16 AM)connectingdots1 Wrote: [ -> ]oh look...joe made a video for JPwannabe


oh look...the ego maniac is jealous that Joe didn't make a video about him.
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