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How Your Mind Distorts Reality - Needy vs Non-Needy Perception
06-09-2016, 05:27 PM
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B-COGNITION

1. Seen as whole, as complete, self-sufficient, as unitary. Either Cosmic Consciousness (Bucks), in which whole cosmos is perceived as single thing with oneself belonging in it; or else the person, object, or portion of the world seen is seen as if it were the whole world, i.e., rest of world is forgotten. Integrative perceiving of unities. Unity of the world or object perceived.

D-COGNITION

1. Seen as part, as incomplete, not self-sufficient, as dependent upon other things.



B-COGNITION

2. Exclusively, fully narrowly attended to; absorption, fascination, focal attention; total attention. Tends to de-differentiate figure and ground. Richness of detail; seen from many sides. Seen with "care," totally, intensely, with complete investment. Totally cathected. Relative importance becomes unimportant; all aspects equally important.

D-COGNITION

2. Attended to with simultaneous attention to all cause that is relevant. Sharp figure ground differentiation. Seen imbedded in relationships to all else in world,as part of the world. Rubricized; seen from some aspects only; selective attention and selective inattention to some aspects; seen casually, seen only from some point of view.

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07-07-2016, 05:36 AM
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I have watched only a few minutes of this video yet and allready have tons of interresting thoughts on the subject. First off, I do not agree with everything Maslov says, and also not with everything Leo says. Sure, from a neutral point of view a mosquito can be seen as a wonderous creature, but cancer, is not an organism, it´s a malfunctioning out of control growth of human cells, there is nothing beneficial or marvelous about it. It serves no one, in my opinion. We do not have to put pink goggles on and force ourselves in unnatural ways to like every thing in order to have a holistic point of view. That is unnatural, we have not been put here to be accepting off or pretend to like things we do not like in reality. The assumption we have to be egoless or selfless is presumptuous , it´s not based on anything except martyrdom.

If we want to have a true holistic point of view, how can we achieve that by excluding ourself from the picture and looking at nature (and life) as something ´´not needing us´´ ? I want to argue that the true holistic perception includes US, ourselves! A basic philosophic truth is that something cannot be holistic or inclusive of everything when it excludes YOU, or supposedly doesn´t ´need´ you .. I also fail to sense how that whole idea is somehow empowering for us, it´s not. It´s my belief that when we embrace raw experience and exclude the concoctions of the mind, that apparatus that is the real divergent, the source of all distinction, that we experience the miracle of being ourselves, with all our flaws, desires, likes and dislikes, needs and wants with no self judgement which paradoxically enables us to let go of the judgement of our surroundings, other creatures, flies and even cancer.Experience that sought after oneness and acceptance. It´s my personal hypothesis that all hate, anger and judgement stems from self-hate, or self abandonment, self abdication, and it´s impossible to become more loving of the world you live in, while rejecting or excluding yourself, or becoming ´selfless´ this is the same subtle way religions have taught us shame and self loathing, in order to become a better, more spiritual person. Has it ever worked ? Well it sure worked out fine for the people who taught it .. because we became meek and tame and could be handled.

There is much more to be said on a big topic like this one, this was just a gut response that found it´s way through my cerebellum.

Leo obviously is a smart guy, and he has many interresting things to share, I have to say though, that I have seen some things in his videos I personally don´t like so much. A tendency towards oversimplified black and white thinking and mild narcissism, in the way he is supposedly on his way to become non judgemental and selfless, yet at the same time, he calls certain people ignorant, losers, bums, you name it, that does not add up. Making the watchers of the video feel they are special, more advanced, or smarter and therefore better than other people, has a name, it´s called narcissism and it´s not egoless at all. The truth is, you can´t talk yourself into holistic thinking, or force yourself into acceptance. It is only when you learn to start to see the benefits of not making a big deal out of things, the perks of not getting stressed over things you do not control, that your mind can slowly be convinced that a holistic or accepting and positive attitude towards the world has practical advantage on every level, and that saying no to yourself means saying no to the world and to life and that saying no to life also means saying no to yourself because you are an inseparable part of life! Your life .. and you .. Sure, the world will keep going without you, but will you be there to watch it move on not needing you ? Not at all .. the big mystery is that this life is ALL about you .. and you are the main player in it, the lead role, so take the stage and don´t be self less but be yourself, be who you want to be

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07-07-2016, 07:02 AM
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(07-07-2016 05:36 AM)2D4 Wrote:  I have watched only a few minutes of this video yet and allready have tons of interresting thoughts on the subject. First off, I do not agree with everything Maslov says, and also not with everything Leo says. Sure, from a neutral point of view a mosquito can be seen as a wonderous creature, but cancer, is not an organism, it´s a malfunctioning out of control growth of human cells, there is nothing beneficial or marvelous about it. It serves no one, in my opinion. We do not have to put pink goggles on and force ourselves in unnatural ways to like every thing in order to have a holistic point of view. That is unnatural, we have not been put here to be accepting off or pretend to like things we do not like in reality. The assumption we have to be egoless or selfless is presumptuous , it´s not based on anything except martyrdom.

If we want to have a true holistic point of view, how can we achieve that by excluding ourself from the picture and looking at nature (and life) as something ´´not needing us´´ ? I want to argue that the true holistic perception includes US, ourselves! A basic philosophic truth is that something cannot be holistic or inclusive of everything when it excludes YOU, or supposedly doesn´t ´need´ you .. I also fail to sense how that whole idea is somehow empowering for us, it´s not. It´s my belief that when we embrace raw experience and exclude the concoctions of the mind, that apparatus that is the real divergent, the source of all distinction, that we experience the miracle of being ourselves, with all our flaws, desires, likes and dislikes, needs and wants with no self judgement which paradoxically enables us to let go of the judgement of our surroundings, other creatures, flies and even cancer.Experience that sought after oneness and acceptance. It´s my personal hypothesis that all hate, anger and judgement stems from self-hate, or self abandonment, self abdication, and it´s impossible to become more loving of the world you live in, while rejecting or excluding yourself, or becoming ´selfless´ this is the same subtle way religions have taught us shame and self loathing, in order to become a better, more spiritual person. Has it ever worked ? Well it sure worked out fine for the people who taught it .. because we became meek and tame and could be handled.

There is much more to be said on a big topic like this one, this was just a gut response that found it´s way through my cerebellum.

Leo obviously is a smart guy, and he has many interresting things to share, I have to say though, that I have seen some things in his videos I personally don´t like so much. A tendency towards oversimplified black and white thinking and mild narcissism, in the way he is supposedly on his way to become non judgemental and selfless, yet at the same time, he calls certain people ignorant, losers, bums, you name it, that does not add up. Making the watchers of the video feel they are special, more advanced, or smarter and therefore better than other people, has a name, it´s called narcissism and it´s not egoless at all. The truth is, you can´t talk yourself into holistic thinking, or force yourself into acceptance. It is only when you learn to start to see the benefits of not making a big deal out of things, the perks of not getting stressed over things you do not control, that your mind can slowly be convinced that a holistic or accepting and positive attitude towards the world has practical advantage on every level, and that saying no to yourself means saying no to the world and to life and that saying no to life also means saying no to yourself because you are an inseparable part of life! Your life .. and you .. Sure, the world will keep going without you, but will you be there to watch it move on not needing you ? Not at all .. the big mystery is that this life is ALL about you .. and you are the main player in it, the lead role, so take the stage and don´t be self less but be yourself, be who you want to be

You write/sound a lot like "Thinker"

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07-07-2016, 04:32 PM
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(07-07-2016 07:02 AM)Fiat Facade Wrote:  You write/sound a lot like "Thinker"

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07-07-2016, 08:38 PM (This post was last modified: 07-07-2016 08:42 PM by 2D4.)
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(07-07-2016 07:02 AM)Fiat Facade Wrote:  
(07-07-2016 05:36 AM)2D4 Wrote:  I have watched only a few minutes of this video yet and allready have tons of interresting thoughts on the subject. First off, I do not agree with everything Maslov says, and also not with everything Leo says. Sure, from a neutral point of view a mosquito can be seen as a wonderous creature, but cancer, is not an organism, it´s a malfunctioning out of control growth of human cells, there is nothing beneficial or marvelous about it. It serves no one, in my opinion. We do not have to put pink goggles on and force ourselves in unnatural ways to like every thing in order to have a holistic point of view. That is unnatural, we have not been put here to be accepting off or pretend to like things we do not like in reality. The assumption we have to be egoless or selfless is presumptuous , it´s not based on anything except martyrdom.

If we want to have a true holistic point of view, how can we achieve that by excluding ourself from the picture and looking at nature (and life) as something ´´not needing us´´ ? I want to argue that the true holistic perception includes US, ourselves! A basic philosophic truth is that something cannot be holistic or inclusive of everything when it excludes YOU, or supposedly doesn´t ´need´ you .. I also fail to sense how that whole idea is somehow empowering for us, it´s not. It´s my belief that when we embrace raw experience and exclude the concoctions of the mind, that apparatus that is the real divergent, the source of all distinction, that we experience the miracle of being ourselves, with all our flaws, desires, likes and dislikes, needs and wants with no self judgement which paradoxically enables us to let go of the judgement of our surroundings, other creatures, flies and even cancer.Experience that sought after oneness and acceptance. It´s my personal hypothesis that all hate, anger and judgement stems from self-hate, or self abandonment, self abdication, and it´s impossible to become more loving of the world you live in, while rejecting or excluding yourself, or becoming ´selfless´ this is the same subtle way religions have taught us shame and self loathing, in order to become a better, more spiritual person. Has it ever worked ? Well it sure worked out fine for the people who taught it .. because we became meek and tame and could be handled.

There is much more to be said on a big topic like this one, this was just a gut response that found it´s way through my cerebellum.

Leo obviously is a smart guy, and he has many interresting things to share, I have to say though, that I have seen some things in his videos I personally don´t like so much. A tendency towards oversimplified black and white thinking and mild narcissism, in the way he is supposedly on his way to become non judgemental and selfless, yet at the same time, he calls certain people ignorant, losers, bums, you name it, that does not add up. Making the watchers of the video feel they are special, more advanced, or smarter and therefore better than other people, has a name, it´s called narcissism and it´s not egoless at all. The truth is, you can´t talk yourself into holistic thinking, or force yourself into acceptance. It is only when you learn to start to see the benefits of not making a big deal out of things, the perks of not getting stressed over things you do not control, that your mind can slowly be convinced that a holistic or accepting and positive attitude towards the world has practical advantage on every level, and that saying no to yourself means saying no to the world and to life and that saying no to life also means saying no to yourself because you are an inseparable part of life! Your life .. and you .. Sure, the world will keep going without you, but will you be there to watch it move on not needing you ? Not at all .. the big mystery is that this life is ALL about you .. and you are the main player in it, the lead role, so take the stage and don´t be self less but be yourself, be who you want to be

You write/sound a lot like "Thinker"

Maybe that´s because I think ¨wink emoticon¨

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Ps. I wasn´t Thinker, or me who brought up this woo woo subject ..

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07-07-2016, 09:08 PM
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Whatever you say, ThinkerD2.

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07-08-2016, 12:18 AM
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Okay Sherlock ..

but if you payed attention you would have noticed that I joined this forum in April 2013, 6 months or so before Thinker. So much for that theory, or maybe you´re just bored right

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