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"Haarp Rings" are caused by AIRPORTS. Please Debunk.
03-24-2011, 08:57 PM
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Yes... It's probably the views... But if he tries to predict enough things, then he is bound to get something right...
Oh, I just can't wait for the time he is right... He'll be the hero... Lol
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03-24-2011, 09:36 PM
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Yeah, when he gets one thing right out of a million they will be swearing then he is a God, or a prophet.

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03-25-2011, 03:24 AM
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(03-24-2011 06:35 PM)12gaugeangel Wrote:  Sure mark... Use anything you like... Just link to realist news in the description.

Ok... So 1 thing to add. I did a map for the small ring he is showing... The image I posted above i believe to be a Doppler radar station for SF. Yes, the very radar that is creating the images of weather. It may be radar for the AF base. Either way its At the exact center of the ring.

The point is that it is often airports in the really dramatic cases. But radar anomalies can be caused by many types of signal overlap. Anyhoo... Excited to see a video on the subject.

Thank you Angel. (Kinda like that more than 12G, if it's cool?)
I will definitely include the link to this thread and all referenced material. I'm a former newsprint reporter (Could ya tell?) so I understand what it means to give a piece journalistic integrity. Which, if done right, there will be no debunking THIS debunking. lol
I'll include all of the pertinent facts and observations you have laid out for us. And anything else I can verify (Aye, Ah seen it with me own two eyes, I did! lol)
Anyway ...
I don't see any reason for haste. So ... It'll take maybe a week, given my schedule.
This is gonna be fun!

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03-25-2011, 05:52 AM
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haarp rings, come on....
wheres tesla when you need him...
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03-25-2011, 06:48 AM
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Dutchsinse is a moron. He's no different to the Nibiru/2012/End of the World Kool-Aid drinking woo-woo's, just a slightly different flavor.
Guy is obviously a bum with no job with the tons of BS videos he uploads every hour of every day. He's living proof that certain people should be banned with coming within a certain distance of an internet connection. He really needs to put a face to that voice so we can see if he looks as stupid as he sounds.
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03-25-2011, 07:50 AM
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Oh wait, so the 2012 to you is not real? Yet we are already seeing signs of what is to come. Come on wake up and smell the flowers, because something bad will be happening next year believe me.

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03-25-2011, 08:04 AM
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This is what I mean by lumping all of the edgy theories together with the bs. Disregarding all of the theories gets really easy with this type claim out there. Not saying i am sure dutchsinse is a disinfo agent, but his attempt to profit is hurting all of our credibility.

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03-25-2011, 08:11 AM
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Yeah, I guess the "signs" are everything that's happened sinse the dawn of time and have all been leading up to 2012.
2012 is complete crap. Invented by whackos like Zecharia Sitchin, Nancy Lieder, Marshall Masters and the rest of the Doomsday Brigade!
The only bad thing that I see happening is mass suicides taking place because of 2012 fear mongering fruitloops poisoning the minds of the uneducated and gullible.
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03-25-2011, 08:15 AM
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Any chance at all that the many ancient cultures knew something about a longer term natural cycle than a year?

Do you not see society coming apart?

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03-25-2011, 08:18 AM
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http://www.2012hoax.org/mayan-prediction
http://www.2012hoax.org/i-ching
http://www.2012hoax.org/hopi
http://www.2012hoax.org/mother-shipton
http://www.2012hoax.org/malachy

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03-25-2011, 09:22 AM
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Nice! I will have a read and create a new discussion on this topic. Your are welcome to do the same. However, this is a heated larger topic so let's leave this thread as focused as possible on the original questions. Please make comments to the following link re: 2012 fact or fake
http://www.realistnews.net/Thread-2012-fact-or-fake

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03-27-2011, 06:04 PM
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Just wanted to add this to the list of perspectives on this subject. I think he's right, I bet they aren't really looking at the haarp data at all.


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03-30-2011, 02:12 PM (This post was last modified: 03-30-2011 02:13 PM by WinningWithSilver.)
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Ok, 12 gauage. The 1st video, if it proved anything, is that there were A Lot of radar anomalies that week. Now, with cloud making evidence, and we find that the radiation is decaying into Barium and Strontium (Same thing in Chemtrails), and we learn the military is using barium and strontium to shoot holographic images. Too many coincidences for me.

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03-30-2011, 05:53 PM
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Ok. So the rings are still causing earthquakes? Are they still coming from haarp?

That was the main point. It's about the origins of the rings. Trying to save this haarp ring thing with project blue beam just doesn't connect for me. The weather map rings come from ground based radar and are everywhere, all the time. He discovered nothing, meteorologists know very well what the radar rings are. Well documented.

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03-30-2011, 05:54 PM
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Btw, search this board for "cftc document". Was posted here weeks ago.

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04-02-2011, 06:51 PM
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05-02-2011, 10:25 PM
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Actually HAARP was developed in the early 90's but the technology has been around for much loner, so that debunks the 1970's thing..

Also It is what hes saying that the centers seem to generate around airports...

Would be a good place to put such items, with all the frequency's that go off, but tell me this... does it happen with every airport... No it does not...

Also Its not just that he sees the patterns, its also that hes predicting accurate weather forecast's based off his center focal points of these HAARP Rings or "Flash Radar". So tell me how hes predicting the weather better then the weather channel with much less equipment...
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05-02-2011, 10:30 PM
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The point was always that the airports are emitting the signals... And Alaskan haarp is not.

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05-02-2011, 10:46 PM
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Just because its not coming directly from Alaska doesn't mean that's not whats causing it.

The beam is bounced back to the earth via the ionosphere. You also need to triangulate a position in order for the haarp to be tuned.

Url for haarp software tuning specifications - digisonde.com/antenna-config.html

So the airports would be good locations that could pull it off, drawing the less attention, already finely tuned high traffic areas.

Notice these are cone shaped, don't let HAARP "ring" fool you, it's more of a "cone" or "triangular" shape.
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05-02-2011, 10:59 PM
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1. There is no "beam".
2. Tuning is a myth and you have no evidence it is possible.
3. In science, the simplest answer is usually right. http://www.experiment-resources.com/occams-razor.html

Are you saying that radar being used for airport operations cannot interfere with weather radar? Show me proof. Are you saying that the Doppler radar data that Dutch looks at is not the cheaper/less precise quality? Go back and read the whole thread young grasshopper.

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