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Another Youtube Scam Artist?
12-23-2013, 12:51 PM
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An admitted actor, is this another devious youtube act or for real? He's getting lot's of views.

Nathan Wheeler - Near Death Experience


http://www.youtube.com/user/truthmefree/videos

middle picture - looks like the sam guy in video?-

http://nathanewheeler.blogspot.com/2010/...eeler.html

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12-24-2013, 12:06 AM (This post was last modified: 12-24-2013 12:10 AM by shane777.)
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%100 genuine
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I watched twice. Once to normalize him, the second to form an opinion

I was 50/50 until the 3:00 with repeated eye movement that correlated with memory recall. Every time he was recalling a memory from his experience. He looks to the left. He does this throughout the entire video consistently.

Second, when he recalls a part of the story where there is either an object in a specific place, or when he makes a physical action. He will look to where that object was from his perspective of the experience. Or where he was taking that action.

At this point I thought he was virtually %100 genuine.

Examples:
The times are at the moment he is looking away from the camera

3:25 - Down to the left, he is recalling a memory where he was making a physical action in his experience and a quick second look at 3:26 recalls the object and position again.

3:40 - Sideways to the left. memory recall.

3:53 - Looks at his arm, where the nurse put the rubber band on before drawing blood.

4:00 - Sideways to the left. memory recall.

4:04 - Up to the left. memory recall.

4:52 - Down to the left. Recalling where the vortex was.

5:00 - Sideways to the left. Looking in the direction the doctor and nurse were standing.

5:08 - Sideways to the right. Looking where the nurse was standing. (specifically at here face)

5:21 - Left to Center to Right. He was confused and couldn't explain so swept his brain from his memories to logical side to come up with an answer and couldn't.

Anyway... The next portion where he reflects, notice how when he is using logic to explain things he looks to the right, and all his left looks are for recalling memories.

His voice seemed to genuinely tremor with emotion towards the end. And his story seemed to be consistent.

I say %100 genuine or else this guy is a great actor/would make one hell of a politician.

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12-24-2013, 03:13 AM (This post was last modified: 12-24-2013 09:38 AM by JPMsecretagent.)
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(12-24-2013 12:06 AM)shane777 Wrote:  I watched twice. Once to normalize him, the second to form an opinion

I was 50/50 until the 3:00 with repeated eye movement that correlated with memory recall. Every time he was recalling a memory from his experience. He looks to the left. He does this throughout the entire video consistently.

Second, when he recalls a part of the story where there is either an object in a specific place, or when he makes a physical action. He will look to where that object was from his perspective of the experience. Or where he was taking that action.

At this point I thought he was virtually %100 genuine.

Examples:
The times are at the moment he is looking away from the camera

3:25 - Down to the left, he is recalling a memory where he was making a physical action in his experience and a quick second look at 3:26 recalls the object and position again.

3:40 - Sideways to the left. memory recall.

3:53 - Looks at his arm, where the nurse put the rubber band on before drawing blood.

4:00 - Sideways to the left. memory recall.

4:04 - Up to the left. memory recall.

4:52 - Down to the left. Recalling where the vortex was.

5:00 - Sideways to the left. Looking in the direction the doctor and nurse were standing.

5:08 - Sideways to the right. Looking where the nurse was standing. (specifically at here face)

5:21 - Left to Center to Right. He was confused and couldn't explain so swept his brain from his memories to logical side to come up with an answer and couldn't.

Anyway... The next portion where he reflects, notice how when he is using logic to explain things he looks to the right, and all his left looks are for recalling memories.

His voice seemed to genuinely tremor with emotion towards the end. And his story seemed to be consistent.

I say %100 genuine or else this guy is a great actor/would make one hell of a politician.


Jury still out on my end. Initially I thought the guy was for real, but After listening to his series to date, 1-4, it seems contrived and so over the top. Obviously the guy has planned out an entire self described "series" (1-10 ). Makes me think he could be using youtube to develop a character or testing an idea/concept? After all he's in the entertainment industry, what better format to do such things? Call me cynical...or wary, youtube seems to be evolving into some alter-ego $$$ mining operation for many.

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12-24-2013, 03:44 AM
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Quote:Jury still out on my end. Initially I thought the guy was for real, but After listening to his series to date, 1-4, it seems contrived and so over the top. Obviously the guy has planned out an entire self described "series" (1-10 ). Makes me think he could be using youtube to develop a Charter or testing an idea/concept? After all he's in the entertainment industry, what better format to do such things? Call me cynical...or wary, youtube seems to be evolving into some alter-ego $$$ mining operation for many.


You could be right but this guy rings true to me. When I watched his video's I eerily had many of the same experiences he has had. It was very freaky for me to watch those vids. Again you could be right and that would surprise me, but my gut feeling coming from my life experiences, this guy seems legit. He's got allot more videos to go. If he's BS'ing then he's a damn good actor and story teller.

Side note. One of the same type of experiences I had was the camping trip with him and his brother at around the 6:00 mark in video #3. For me, when I was about 6, I saw a ghost in the living room from my bedroom while in bed. Fast forward 20 years I was at my sisters house for Halloween and we were telling ghost stories. She told the same story with the ghost doing the exact same same things, but only it was from her bedroom that also entered the living room while she was going to sleep. All the details of our individual experiences matched up. And we both had our eyes closed at first and had an incredible feeling that we need to open our eyes. It freaked us out when we were figuring this out!

I also had the same experiences as a younger 4yo child trying to fall asleep and being torched by emptiness, way to hard for me to explain because it was mostly feeling with very few visuals, but it's a horrible, horrible, horrible feeling. You just have to experience it. When he was talking about it, his emotions were very true to me.

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12-24-2013, 02:50 PM
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trained actors know all of those physical confirmation techniques.

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